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An Interview with Eric Fischl

[PAINTER AND SCULPTOR]
“IF YOU WANTED TO MAKE ART ABOUT URBAN LIFE, GREAT. OR THE HONEST FARMER AND THE PASTORAL LANDSCAPE—THAT HAD A LEGITIMATE HISTORICAL GENRE. WHEREAS SOMEONE AT A SHOPPING MALL OR WATCHING TV…”
Instead of minimalist squares of paint, we have:
Pickpockets
Masturbating Post-pubescent Boys
Lawn Chairs
India
Joan Didion
The ghosts of the dead
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An Interview with Eric Fischl

[PAINTER AND SCULPTOR]
“IF YOU WANTED TO MAKE ART ABOUT URBAN LIFE, GREAT. OR THE HONEST FARMER AND THE PASTORAL LANDSCAPE—THAT HAD A LEGITIMATE HISTORICAL GENRE. WHEREAS SOMEONE AT A SHOPPING MALL OR WATCHING TV…”
Instead of minimalist squares of paint, we have:
Pickpockets
Masturbating Post-pubescent Boys
Lawn Chairs
India
Joan Didion
The ghosts of the dead

An Interview with Eric Fischl

Christopher Bollen
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The first paintings were domestic in subject and radical in nature. These were lucid suburban narratives bathed in pellucid oils of sunlight and frozen on bodies, often naked with legs splayed, caught languishing in master bedrooms or sunning restlessly on crowded beaches. In Sleepwalker (1979), a post-pubescent boy masturbates in a backyard wading pool over his own shadow as two empty lawnchairs watch from the sidelines. In Bad Boy (1981), an older woman, lying nude on a bed, picks at her foot while a young boy secretly slips his hand into her open purse. Eric Fischl’s paintings rarely preach, but their frank, coolly aloof treatments usually fixate on American family or marriage life at its most ordinary, most stripped, and most dysfunctional. Their entrance on the scene came during the reign of minimalism and conceptual art, when the painted human figure was about as acceptable as speaking Russian or joining the U.S. Army. It was Fischl, along with artists such as Julian Schnabel, Ross Bleckner, and David Salle, who literally resurrected the human body and returned it—kicking, fucking, sleeping, and mowing the lawn—to the galleries and collections of the early 1980s.

Don’t miscast Eric Fischl in the role of bad boy, however: he was never really bad, and he was never just a boy caught between an open purse and an open body. Fischl’s work has progressed through the years in incredibly sinister and seductive ways—roaming from India to Italy, and from pivoting corporal watercolor forms across white paper to memorializing friends and famous acquaintances in head-to-toe portraiture. In 2002, controversy surrounded his sculpture of a woman falling in space (Tumbling Woman, 2002), inspired in part by those victims of the World Trade Center attack who jumped from the windows before the buildings fell. The memorial sculpture, placed at Manhattan’s Rockefeller Center, drew public outrage and the usual conservative mill of shock-art criticism. Fischl meant to express grief, not to give it, but like most of his works, it brilliantly exposes the runny gray area between art-world and popular values, acceptability and expression. Currently, this master of the figure is painting domestic scenarios modeled on two actors whom he routinely photographs by following them around the house. Any trace of scandal appears to have died down lately, but his dark vision of human interaction is still alive and well.

—Christopher Bollen

I. “UNTIL WE EMBRACED IT, AND SO MANY MEMBERS OF MY GENERATION DID, SUBURBIA WAS NOT CONSIDERED A LEGITIMATE GENRE.”

THE BELIEVER: It seems like figure painting isn’t just back, it’s pretty much ubiquitous—especially with younger artists. I’d think you must be something of a role model for this aspiring generation.

ERIC...

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